Many of us get stuck working on things that don’t give us joy, that fail at making us feel fulfilled. But what if you could actually get out of that and do what you’re passionate about the most? This episode’s guest is all about helping people with that. Steve Farber interviews Janet Bray Attwood, the co-author of the New York Times bestseller, The Passion Test: The Effortless Path to Discovering Your Life Purpose. Here, Janet shares with us the formula to living a passionate life, leading us into living with a deepened sense of meaning and a higher sense of purpose. Moreover, she also talks about the kind of conversation many don’t talk about enough—the process of falling in love with our very own selves. Join Janet and Steve in this conversation as they take us into the passion test and the mastery of self-love.
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Your Passion Test And The Mastery Of Self-Love With Janet Bray Attwood
My guest is my old friend, Janet Bray Attwood. I’m going to tell you a little bit about Janet. Janet Bray Attwood is the co-author of the New York Times bestseller, The Passion Test: The Effortless Path to Discovering Your Life Purpose and also the book, Your Hidden Riches: Unleashing the Power of Ritual to Create a Life of Meaning and Purpose. She’s the Cofounder of The Passion Test Certification Program and Mastery of Self-Love Certification, which has over 4,000 certified facilitators in over 65 countries. I happened to be one of those 4,000 passion test certified facilitators. She’s also the Cofounder of The Passion Test for Business, The Passion Test for Kids and Teens, Enlightened Bestseller Program, and The Passion Test Reclaim Your Power Program for The Homeless.
You can see The Passion Test theme running through all of this. Way back when she was in a bit of the corporate world. This is where she comes from. She was the marketing director for what at the time was the third-largest book buyer in the United States, a company called Books Are Fun. She managed the marketing department of over 40 marketers. It was during her tenure that the company was sold to Reader’s Digest for $360 million. Janet lives all over the world. She’s settled down at least for the time being in the bustling metropolis known as Fairfield, Iowa. Thanks for being on the show, Janet.
Thank you. I knew this would be fun because being with you is always fun.
We do have a good time together. This show is called Love Is Just Damn Good Business. There’s an obvious resonance between your body of work and mine. Tell us a little bit about The Passion Test. At a higher level, when you talk about passion, what does that mean to you and what should it mean for us?
What do you get out of bed for in the morning? What do you care about? What do you love? What would light your fire? What turns you on? What is that thing that you would do even if you didn’t get paid? What is it that you got, “If I was doing that, I would be fabulously happy?” That’s what passion is all about which is the thing that has the greatest meaning and purpose to you. I love to talk about the book, Success Built to Last, because it’s correlated with what both you and I do. The authors: Stewart Emery, Mark Thompson and Jerry Porras went and interviewed over 200 highly successful people, not just with 10 years but 20, 30, 40 years of long-standing success.
People like President Jimmy Carter and Michael Dell from Dell Computer and the great poet, Michelangelo, and many others. What they found was that the one thing that these guys all had in common in women was that they were all choosing consistently in favor of that which gave them more meaning purpose. They weren’t making a money-based decision. They were making what we call a passion-based decision.
It’s equated passion with meaning and purpose. If there’s something that I’m doing that gives my life a deepened sense of meaning and a higher sense of purpose, that by definition is a passion of mine, is that what you are saying?
If it’s something that you love. A lot of people wear the cross on their back because they think they have to and I wouldn’t call that because it did have meaning and purpose. It might not be the one for you because you also have passion behind that meaning and purpose otherwise, what do you have? You have guilt-ridden dates.
The word passion has come to mean something different for us in modern times. You said you use the metaphor of carrying the cross on your back. I’m not a biblical scholar, but I do happen to know that the passion of the Christ refers to the suffering that he went through with carrying the cross, the crown of thorns and all of that. In its original meaning, the word passion meant to suffer. In other words, it was something that we felt strongly about that we were willing to suffer for it. What it’s come to mean for me is it doesn’t have that connotation anymore. It’s something that we love, lights us up, and gives us energy. I might feel strongly about something that I’m willing to suffer for or extreme cases, willing to die for, but that’s a different kind of passion.
That’s more like a mission. I remember one time I was interviewing Robert Kiyosaki and I said, “What’s your passion?” He goes, “Passion? I have a mission. I save people.”Passion is all about the thing that has the greatest meaning and purpose to you. Click To Tweet
That was a mission that he was passionate about.
I was like, “I get it, Robert.” Just because you’re living your passion doesn’t mean that there aren’t those times when you’re doing, “I want to make something else.” That it doesn’t mean that everything you’re doing is like, “This gets me out of bed in the morning.” For instance, New York Times bestselling author. Why? Was it fun to write the book? Would I have rather been doing other things? Many a time. There were many pencils thrown down that wall of mine in my bedroom writing that book, wanting to instead be out in my pond swimming with my golden retrievers at the time. Sometimes there is that you have to get through that icky and little stuff to get to that higher meaning and purpose passion.
It doesn’t mean that 24 hours a day, everything that we do we’re in love with. The way that I like to frame that up is there are things that we have to do that we don’t love doing in order to do the things that we love and the technical term for that is called being an adult. If we can honestly step back and look at our lives and say, “My life is characterized by doing the things that I’m passionate about,” then we know we’ve gotten there. That doesn’t mean that everything that we do we’re passionate in love with.
If you are wondering if you’re there or not, I’ll tell you how to know if you’re not there, your life sucks. You wake up every morning and you go, “There’s got to be more to it than this.” I would like to hear your take on this too, even though you’re interviewing me. What I always tell people now is living your passion is not even personal. Living your passion is about getting super quiet and starting to listen to that inner voice that’s always guiding us and who is that inner voice or what is that inner voice?
I like to say it’s the higher power, nature, the universe, or God. I love this quote by Maharishi, “Do less, accomplish more. See the job, do the job and stay out of the misery.” Why? The misery is in doing things that you’re not passionate about on a regular basis. What happens is the universe being efficient starts to give us a little tap, “You are going the wrong way.” What are the statistics now? They’re like monstrous of the individuals that 2.2 billion people in the world wake up every morning not happy, not fulfilled and not passionate about what they do.
What that means to me is they’re not listening. Nature is efficient because each and every one of us are a parcel of what nature calls a unified field. We’ve all got our marching orders and that’s what I call our passions as well. Your passions and your purpose here on this planet. What I always say is your passions are like breadcrumbs that lead you onto the path of your destiny. They’re not your destiny, but they’re the clues to your destiny.
If we’re not listening, then nature becomes your passions of what your gift is here to give back, for having the privilege of being able to breathe, live and be a human on this planet. That’s a great privilege. If you’re not listening to what nature does a little first tap, then the next thing you know is, you’re winding up, you’re lying in bed in some hospital and you’re going, “Why am I doing this? Why do I do this to myself?”
Having your inner time to think, “Why am I living this life that sucks? It’s awful. What do I care about? What do I want to do?” I like to make sure people get this because the universe doesn’t play tricks. It’s not a mistake that you love what you love and that’s why passion and living a passionate life for me it’s a passion. Everyone living a passionate life is my passion. Helping them find that because we don’t exist in isolation.
When there are many people on the planet that are waking up not happy, not fulfilled, if you’re a happy camper. Maybe if you’re living on Mars, you’re okay but as long as you’re here on this planet, you’re affected by the fact that other people are not living that passion, not happy, and not fulfilled. It’s selfish on my part. I run all over the world helping people live a passionate life so that I can feel their bliss because that feels good to me. I bet you wake up every day and go, “Where are the most depressed, sad people? I’ve got to go find them. I’ve got to go hang with them.”
I don’t seek them out, but given the fact that I spend most of my professional life working in the corporate world. I don’t do public workshops where people are self-selecting, I’m being brought in to speak to a company, to an association or whatever it is. You’ve got people in the audience that are miserable and you’ve got people that are happy. It’s always a wonderful thing to see lights go on for people that have on some level given up and then realize that they don’t need to.
That’s where I get great joy from seeing those lights go on. A lot of times, it happens because when I come along or when you come along and say your passions are important, what you love is important, and you should act on that basis. It’s a great relief to people because many have been conditioned to believe that that’s not the case and even though internally, they know it is. When somebody like you or somebody like me comes along and says, “That instinct that you have is right. You should act on that.”
It feels like a great burden has been lifted. There is one thing I want to say about this discovering passion, whether is it an inner listening or an outward activity. I think it’s both and I think the mistake that a lot of people make is that if you ask most people without helping them to answer it, “What are you passionate about?” Most people, or at least a lot of people would say, “I don’t know. I would love to know.”
They feel some deficit because they don’t have the answer to that. Therefore, they feel that something is wrong with them because it should be this thing that’s clear. It should be obvious to me, but it’s not. If I’m in that situation and I go inside, I take the reflective approach and I asked the question, “What am I passionate about?” I may get an answer or I may not. That’s the inner side of it. The outer side is I need to go find it, which means I need to try things. I need to experiment and to learn some new things.
That way I’m going to get the signals that you were talking about where the universe, nature or whatever you want to call it comes along and says, “No.” If I’m not listening to that, then it is going to delay my discovery. I think it’s an inward reflection, outward experimentation, and asking the right questions, which is what The Passion Test does. It sets up a process for people to consciously and intentionally try to discover what those passions are or to uncover them perhaps.
There’s a formula to living a passionate life that we talk about in The Passion Test. For those people that are ready and want to get clear, the first step is we say intention, attention, attention, intention. It’s one exercise after the other that gets you clear about what it is that you choose to create in your life, what it is that you love, what it is that you care about so that you can be like those people in Success Built to Last.
The first step in intention is to get clear and that’s what The Passion Test does fantastically by creating this one sentence, “When my life is ideal, I am,” then thinking about all the different areas of your life that if you could have been or do anything, I set it up like this for all my students when they’re in my room. If everyone says yes to you, if all the doors are open, what would you say, “This is it.” What are those things? I say, “Think of the different areas of your life and then go from there.”
What are the areas that are important? Health, relationships, career, spirituality, your fun, your environment where you are living, or your service which is your give back, all of these different areas. Think about it like a little kid. A little kid wouldn’t go, “I can’t do that. I’m too old.” They don’t censor themselves. They’re open. They stay in that I can do it place and put on your Mickey Mouse ears. With that attitude like a little kid, then start to write down, “When my life is ideal, I am,” and see what would it be in terms of your relationships.
What would the best of the best of that be in terms of your health? What would the best of the best of that be that you can think of that would work for you? If someone is reading who’s going, “That is such a crock because I can hardly get out of bed. This COVID virus thing ruined my life and I’ve never been more depressed.” I’d say to you what I said when I was in Miami some years back giving The Passion Test to about 200 homeless women. I said, “Let’s take The Passion Test.”
This one woman is sitting and she’s smack dab in the middle of the room. It was a big round table room and there were about 200 women and she goes, “I don’t know what I’m passionate about. I don’t have a clue.” I said, “What has happened to you that you would never want to have happened again?” She said, “I never want to be homeless.” I said, “What would the opposite of being homeless and living on the street be for you?”
She said, “I live in a beautiful home.” I said, “Yes, honey. Start from where you are. You be you.” One thing to remember, it’s not about how, it’s the what. That’s what we always say in The Passion Test. What do you care about? What do you love? What turns you on? Not, how am I going to get that house? How am I going to get this? How am I going to get that? That’s not your job. That’s nature, higher power, the universe, the unified field, whatever name you want to put to that energy that’s greater than yourself.The universe doesn't play tricks, and it's not a mistake that you love what you love. Click To Tweet
What happens when you start to get clear on what it is that you choose to create in your life, then what you’ll start to notice is that synchronicity. I don’t know why this happens. I’m not a scientist but what I’ve seen over and over again is when I see my students put their attention on the things that have the greatest meaning for them, the magic starts to happen. I say it’s magic because what happens is the people, the places, the things start to show up to support them. It makes total sense when I go back to that initial statement that I said at the beginning of your show that nature doesn’t play tricks.
It’s not a mistake that you love what you love. Where you’re going to get the most supportive nature is by doing those things that have the greatest meanings for you. This is nature’s guidance. Why most people don’t do that is their limiting beliefs like, “I’m not good enough. I’m not smart enough. I’m not rich enough. I don’t have what it takes. I don’t have it.” What do they do? They do what I love this phrase that Mark Victor Hansen from Chicken Soup coined, “They stay in their job, which is they’re just over broke instead of going for that thing.” The reason why they don’t go for that thing is, “What if I fail in the thing that I care most about?”
Maybe there is some mystical aspect to getting clear on what you want and things start to happen. I’m not smart enough to confirm or deny it, but I think that a lot of it is not mystical too. If I’m clear on what it is that I want, and I’m not worried much about the how, but about the what. This woman is saying, “I live in a beautiful home.” Me saying it on her behalf makes me feel a difference. It affects the way my physiology is working which then allows me to be more alive and awake so that if I’m clear on what I want, I’m going to notice opportunities in my environment that I wouldn’t have noticed otherwise.
That’s one thing. Back to the formula, the first step was the intention and the second step is attention. I was talking to a bunch of people and I said, “How many of you have become experts in COVID virus?” A lot of them raised their hand. I said, “Look where you’re putting your powerful attention.” What you put your attention on grows stronger in your life. You’re either creating the world you choose to create at any moment in time or creating the world you don’t choose to create by what you put your attention on.
If you’re a samurai and you’re a clear guy, you see your passion and you go for it. You do what you need to do. You’re not thinking all these other lesser things that are distracting, but what most people do, that’s what they do. They distract themselves away from exactly what they choose to create in their life. I think it’s not mystical. All of us are powerful but it’s where are you putting your powerful attention. That’s why anyone who talks about passion at all will say that clarity is one of the most important aspects of living a passionate life. There’s this great saying by Bhagavad, “Curving back on myself, I create again and again.” Getting clear if there’s any mystical to it, it’s an inside out job. When you have that clarity within what’s clear, “This is my Monet. This is the beautiful painting of my life within and I can see it clearly.”
That’s where the magic starts to happen. The other thing is that putting the second step to the formula, intention and attention, it’s not enough to say, “I’m a New York Times bestselling author.” You got to take action. It’s not enough to omen it. It won’t omen into existence I promise you that. I know there are a lot of people that try to do things like that, but you got to take action. What that means is you walk through the doors that are open and you don’t complain about the doors that don’t open.
Go through the ones that do. That’s what it means when we say your passions are like breadcrumbs. You walked through those doors with breadcrumbs that lead you onto the path of your destiny. The last step of the formula is, after you’ve taken massive action is got to do it. You’ve got to go for it and then everything you know to do. For that homeless woman, what would I have said for her to do? I would have said, “Start planning what house do you want. Put your attention on that house. Where are the rooms? What are the colors? Where would you want it to be? Keep your attention on that and then start to notice.” The universe doesn’t play tricks. In which you have a powerful feeling for, that’s your inner guidance saying, “I’m going for it.”
That’ll take you far. Also, taking massive action at the same time and walking through those doors that are open, that’s also the clues. That will also take you. Once you’ve done everything you know to do, then the last step of the formula is no attention. Have you ever wanted something bad that even after you did everything you needed to do you’re like, “I’ve got to do one more thing?” My lesson is to be patient, don’t push, let go. I’m the queen of that one. It can get overdone and it’s like you step on the hose and what happens? I suck the water out. The last step of the formula is to let go. In that letting go, that’s the sweet spot. That’s where the do less accomplish more starts to happen.
I think I’m going to assume that that’s a big challenge for a lot of people. It is for me. It’s almost a little bit ironic. The more that I want something, the harder it is to let go and that’s what I need to do. The thing that I need to do the most is the thing that’s hardest to do.
Think of relationships you’ve had. It’s all about trust.
In my work, what I’m trying to accomplish is big. It’s a global aspiration that is way beyond any individual’s ability to do. I have to constantly remind myself that in order to love a standard operating principle in business, that’s a ginormous aspiration. I cannot do it. The question is, “What can I do, and at what point?” Between the gap of what can I do and the things that I cannot do, we’re figuring out where’s the point to let go and where’s the point to persist? That’s the question that I’m always asking myself.
What do you come up with? What I come up with when I know I’m straining on the mantra. It’s got to be like, “This is no longer fun. This feels like I’m pushing and I’m forcing.” You also see. You get all the clues. The universe gives you clues. Nothing’s working. Doors aren’t opening. Nothing is happening. That’s why I always use the analogy of stepping on your hose because nothing can happen.
How do you reconcile with the classic? This is the thing that always pushes my buttons when I hear the classic motivational speaker types say things like, “Never ever give up.” I understand the sentiment behind that but there are times where I’m pursuing the wrong how, and I have to let go of that. I have to give it up but because I’m confusing that with the end result which is easy to do and I hear that mantra going through my head, I feel like if I let go, then it’s a failure. Every door is shutting in my face but if I opened one more door, that I can walk through it. How do I reconcile those experiences?
It’s because you’re thinking that when you’re letting go, that’s giving up. You’re just letting go. No one said it meant giving up. Letting go is not giving up.
What does letting go feel and look like?
It’s free-falling, no effort, no stopping. We all have an inner GPS. Here’s a good analogy. You know the state contraction and the other state. You’re either expanded or contracted. When you’re contracted, do you think that’s the time to take action, go for it and communicate all of your loves and wants and desires? Yes or no?
I don’t know that I’d be able to.
When you’re expanded, that’s the time to take action. When the sun goes up, would you say that’s contracted or expanded?
That would be expanded.
When the sun goes down, that would be what?Self-love is acceptance of who you are being right now in this moment. Click To Tweet
If we’re playing with that metaphor, it would be contracted.
Which is better? Which is more valuable?
It depends on what you’re trying to do. They’re both equally valuable.
That’s it and so is letting go. It’s equally valuable than taking action. It’s a state. It’s nature’s way and nature’s guidance. All that means is when it’s a time to let go, that’s a time where you’re usually in a more contracted state. We talk about that state as a time for me-time. That’s a time for me to do whatever I want to do that brings me joy. Maybe it’s walking in nature, doing meditation, listening to great music, playing music, or whatever brings me great joy. What I noticed then is that as I do those things in the me-time, I start to open again.
This is a principle. This letting go is not giving up. It’s part of the inner GPS being highly attuned to, “I’m getting a message to be on the self because when I do that, then more is going to show itself to me. This is life. This is the flow of life. How do you flow in life? Most people think that when you’re contacted, angry, depressed, and sad, that’s a bad thing. When you’re happy, joyful and loving, that’s a good thing. Truly, when you’re angry, sad, and depressed, it’s not any better when you’re awake.
You realize it’s a different state. What do you do with that? I love Byron Katie’s quote, “As long as life is a dream, it may as well be a happy one.” Give yourself some me-time. You give yourself time to be with you. You do what you love and next thing you know, “I fed myself self-love.” There you go back again to the world living your passion. Does anything ever stop or do you ever give up? I don’t think I have that word in my vocabulary.
I want to build on this self-love because I know that that’s a big passion of yours and you’ve done a lot of work and helping people to discover that for themselves. This whole mantra that we use around these parts is a do what you love in the service of people who love what you do and this idea of cultivating love being at the core of extreme leadership, etc. At the core is self-love. If I don’t have that love directed towards myself, everything else becomes a lot more difficult, not impossible. In the business world where I spend most of my time, that’s a subject that we don’t talk about very much. You won’t see me on stage taking people through a process to fall in love with themselves. Maybe I should, maybe I shouldn’t, but typically, that’s not the conversation that we have, but it is important. What words of guidance do you have for us who need to cultivate that in ourselves?
Our nature is love and we came in as love. What happened next? Life tested us and came. We had certain things happen. Maybe you had parents who said, “Your big brother could do that, but you’ll never be able to do that.” What happened? A veil, protection. It started to protect my heart. Maybe you were sexually abused, you got in a car accident or maybe someone you loved that was close to you died, that’s a big veil of protection.
Our nature is still love and all of us. I always say that everyone on this planet is doing the best they can do. How do you know that’s the best they can do? How do you know that that’s what they’re doing? My nature is love, then why aren’t I loved? What we’ve done is we start to layer and protect. What you find is that worked for a while. All of a sudden you realize, “How come I can’t feel? How come I’m not connecting? How come I’m having these icky moments with all of my relationships? How come I feel disconnected from the other? How do I get to that place where I feel no separation?” That’s my work. That’s what I’m working with people on. The first thing I say is that people think self-love is about, “I’m going to make a list of all the areas that I’m imperfect and I’m going to strive to be perfect in those areas and then I can love myself.”
I’m here to say that as big a bunch of boos. I don’t listen to anybody who says stuff like that. Self-love is acceptance of who I am being in this moment. I can’t bring to the table any more than what I’m bringing now. That’s impossible. How insane would it be for me to think that I should be more than what I am? If I do, I’ll never be able to be that. Therefore, I’m back in the same mess that I was in. The first one is the acceptance of where I am now.
Everyone reading, if you could think about it. Is there any time where you’re not doing the best you can? It doesn’t mean you won’t met mess up, slip up or say the wrong thing, but was that your best at that moment? It always has to be. It doesn’t work any other way. A hard one for people is, “Here we go, here’s self-love 101.” Be kind to you because as you treat you, you treat everyone. Here’s what you wouldn’t probably say on your business stage but I say is that there’s no one out there and when I say that, think about this, nature is profound. Nature is efficient that nature created the other. When we can stand in the fire of our own discomfort when we do something that we think, “That didn’t feel good.” What we’ll always notice is whatever we’re judging about someone else is what we’re judging about ourselves.
The only person you have to worry about or pay attention to is the amount of love that you can give yourself. That’s why I talk about passion. It’s one of the practices that I give people. Living a passionate life, The Passion Test, to be able to give themselves more love because saying, “This is what I stand for. This is what matters most to me.” That’s a great self-love proclamation because it takes great courage to inspire of what your mother, your father or the rest of the universe thinks, you’re going for what you feel is best for you at this moment. The thing that you love the most. That’s a great self-love statement.
I’m going to have you do this little exercise. I want you to think about someone you love. Everybody reading to this, I want you to think about someone you love because it’s such a cool exercise. I want you to write one word, one quality that that person has like beautiful, sweet, patient, kind, or generous. That same go-to person notice every once in a while, when they are off in your mind, I want you to think five things about what is the opposite that you feel about them. What can they do that is irritating? Maybe they’re stubborn or they can be mean sometimes and they can be nagging. Everybody else, write down the five things that you love and five things that if they do it, you get irritated. Give me five lovely things. What are they?
Loving, gracious, accepting, funny and generous.
What are the other five?
Worries, limited thinking, judgy, critical and impatient.
Say, “Steve is,” then read the five you love.
Steve is loving, gracious, accepting, funny and generous.
Isn’t that true?
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Read the other five.
Steve worries, have limited thinking, is judgy, critical and impatient.
There’s no one out there. Whoever is that person in that moment that you’re blaming or shaming, that’s because those are aspects of yourself. The universe is efficient. Nature blows up my mind. Nature set up the other for us to be able to see ourselves. Why? For use to start to turn all love directed to the self so that we can start to see ourselves in others and start to accept that as well. There’re big judgments. Half of the people when I do this exercise can’t read the other five. They’re fast read the five they love, but the other five, they go right into shame. What is the first one on the five on that dark side sheet of paper?
Sometimes you do.
I worry about the fact that I worry sometimes.
Be okay. Sometimes, you worry. What’s the other thing?
Do you ever see that you have limited thinking sometimes? This is what I’m talking about acceptance, but what do we do? We project what we’re not accepting about ourselves onto the other.
That’s the only work that we can have a direct impact on.
That’s the whole point. All love is directed to the self. Therefore, the only work we have to do is our own inner work and the rest of it takes care of itself. If you want to know how you’re doing, hang out with a bunch of people and notice what’s going on in your mind and start being conscious.
If you want to do a deep dive in this and challenge yourself, hang out with people that piss you off and use that as a way as self-reflection.
When you get to the point, think about it. When you’re having a bad day, it doesn’t even matter if it’s the best person. When you’re on a good day, even that person that makes you crazy isn’t bad. Why is it? It’s because it’s all about you.
It’s a compelling idea particularly in light of the current environment. We’re polarized. We anger each other frequently in the political spectrum and every societal problem, COVID, and everything made us critical of others. I am no exception to that.
You can’t be because you’re the one who brings it up.
I find myself part of that list of limited thinking, judgy, critical, and impatient. I don’t know how many times a day by watching the news and the challenge to turn that around on myself, I can see how powerful an exercise that is.
It is exercise. It’s a real uncomfortable sometimes exercise. That’s why I called it standing in the fire of your own discomfort. It is taking responsibility for what you see. Everything I see is me. If everything I see is me and I’m not loving something, then I’m curving it back on the self, where am I not being accepting of that in myself? What most people do is they projected outward. That’s why there’s much separation in the world.
It’s too painful to have to deal with it. The thing is what people don’t remember because it’s only remembering. We all know this. We’ve all been through this love thing. We know it in our DNA, but we’ve forgotten. All I do is remind people that remember your nature is love. Therefore, anything unlike love, that’s your work with not the other but with you on self-acceptance. It doesn’t mean you keep going around abusing other people.
What it does mean is that when you become more conscious of the pain that’s going on and what most people do is instead of feeling the pain, pain is a feeling asking to be felt. Instead of allowing that to be putting your attention on that which is going on inside of you, what do we do? We lash it out. We want to strike back. We want to make other people wrong. This is a big-time in the world now. That’s why your topic is a hot topic. My prayer is that you’ll not separate the business world from the personal world to the professional world. Think about how we talked about it’s the business world couldn’t say that on that stage.
They’re dying for that to be said and all of this should be said on every stage in the world, because it is our nature therefore there is not any stage that it doesn’t belong any longer. It’s a critical time. The universe is showing us by what we see going on by the fires that are happening and by the environment. The ice caps melting at a record rate. There are many calamities in the world. This is nature’s way of saying, “There’s COVID virus. Go back to your room. I want you to go get to your room and I want you to think about how you’re projecting outward and come back to your nature and start being kind to you because as you treat you, you treat everyone.”
Janet, you’ve done such great work over the years and even decades now with your processes and your programs and the community that you built around The Passion Test. You never stop moving. You’ve got a new thing that you’re launching. Tell us a little bit about that.
It’s my Mastery of Self-Love. It’s a seven-session program where I’m taking people through a deep dive, three hours, one time a week. I’m using different processes and tools and different techniques. It’s with me. It’s a live Zoom program and it’s powerful. If you’re someone that feels like, “I could love myself a bit more.” To the degree that you love yourself, you’re an attraction magnet. That affects your success. It’s super important for all of us and to the degree that you love yourself, it affects your relationships.
All your relationships are affected by how you feel about you. If you need an upgrade, this course would be fantastic, but if you’re someone that has felt like, “I don’t know who I am. I don’t know where to start.” I say this is self-love 101. I will take you through this seven-step program to that place where you’ll feel like, “I got it.” I want you to know that it’s a lifelong program. It’s a lifelong practice self-love. You’ll have the tools that you need in the different practices that hundreds and thousands of people have said to me, “This is good stuff, Janet. Thank you and I finally know who I am.”
I did a course and I had one woman who had been using psychotherapy, psychology and gone to a psychiatrist who had been sexually abused and physically abused for over 21 years. She said, “I can’t believe I took this course. This course finally, not only do I wake up finally happy, but I couldn’t even drive because my feet had been in such physical pain. I don’t know why, but now I have no more pain.” I had a sixteen-year-old and she said to me afterward, “I’m never going to be bullied again.”
Other than that, is there a place to go for people to stay in toAll love is directed to the self so that we can start to see ourselves in others. Click To Tweetuch with you?
It’s www.ThePassionTest.com. You can find out any of my courses or if you need anything, coaching, whatever, you can find it there.
I’m going to look at doing some cool things together here in the near future.
Look for that because it’s going to be big because we’re big people.
This has been fun. Thank you. Thank you all for reading to this episode. Until next time, do what you love in the service of people who love what you do. See you soon.
- The Passion Test: The Effortless Path to Discovering Your Life Purpose
- Your Hidden Riches: Unleashing the Power of Ritual to Create a Life of Meaning and Purpose
- Mastery of Self-Love Certification
- The Passion Test for Business
- The Passion Test for Kids and Teens
- Enlightened Bestseller Program
- Success Built to Last
About Janet Attwood
Janet Bray Attwood is the co-author of the New York Times Bestseller, “The Passion Test-The Effortless Path to Discovering Your Life Purpose,”and “Your Hidden Riches – Unleashing the Power of Ritual to Create a Life of Meaning and Purpose.” She is also co-author of “From Sad to Glad: 7 Steps to Facing Change with Love and Power.”
As an expert on what it takes to live a passionate life, she has presented her programs as a featured speaker to hundreds of thousands of people around the world including, The Dalai Lama, Sir Richard Branson, T. Harv Eker, Jack Canfield, Lisa Nichols, Stephen Covey, Brendon Burchard and others.
Janet has taken hundreds of thousands of people through The Passion Test process all over the world. Janet is the co-founder of The Passion Test Certification Program, which has over 3000+ Certified Facilitators in over 65 countries. Janet is also the co-founder of The Passion Test for Business, The Passion Test for Kids & Teens, Enlightened Bestseller program, The Passion Test Reclaim Your Power Program for the homeless and The Mastery of Self Love Program.
Janet co-founded one of the first online magazines, Healthy Wealthy n Wise. Prior to becoming a top transformational leader, Janet worked in the corporate world. In one of her positions, she was the marketing director for the 3rd largest book buyer in the United States, “Books Are Fun,” managing the marketing department of for over 40 marketers. It was during her tenure there that the company was purchased by Readers Digest for 360 million dollars.
Janet is a facilitator of “The Work of Byron Katie” she is also a facilitator of the environmental symposium, “Awakening the Dreamer – Changing the Dream” and a “Certified Strategic Synchronicity Leader.”